Harper reaffirms vow to scrap gun registry

[Corey Coles]

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/cbc-article.aspx?cp-documentid=2...

[Fred Woodman]

Gun Owners have to decide. Its no doubt that the Conservatives want to eliminate the Gun Registry. They infact lost a vote in the last sitting to abolish it. And its also fact that all our ABC elected Liberals, voted against abolishing it.

 

As it stands today several Bills are before Parliament as it pertains to Long Guns, all of them are bad for law abidding hunters and shooters.

 

Like them or not, the Conservatives are the only Party thats supports hunters, and shooters.

[Robert Sullivan]

The conseratives may vow to scrap the gun registry, but is it worth everything else we'll lose by electing Harper again?  Do I really need to list everything Harper has said about Newfoundlanders over the years or remind people of all of the promises Harper has broken?  For now, I'll register my guns and pray Harper doesn't get a majority government.  My 2-cents...

[Fred Woodman]

I dont like any of them, and I want to be perfectly clear on that.If I had my way there would be a lot less of them. But in my brief 50 years I dont know of any of them that dont have a list of broken promises.Every Nfld Premier since 1949 has gone to war against whoever was in power in Ottawa.

 

and in fairness to Harper,( i dont dislike him as much as I dislike the others) If he was going to put the boots to us, he would have done it in past two and half years .Considering we didnt have a representative in Government from nfld. But he hasnt. Sorry but I am not buying the boggy man therory.

 

Having said that they are the only party thats supporting hunters and shooters.The others have openly proclaimed to be harder on us in the future. Thats on public record. On that we can all agree.

[Robert Sullivan]

I agree with a lot of your points Fred...  I don't particularly like any of the leaders either, almost seems as though the " "left-wing" groups are shifting more left all of the time...scary.

[Fred Woodman]

You are dead on. And its not the politicians fault. Those who are opposed to guns have been more active in setting the agenda.( Just look at the flip flop of the NDP on the vote last fall.

 By and large gun owners have sat back and let it happen.Tell you what if we dont make sure we are heard we will be swept under the rug.

 

I suggest that all shooters go and check whats laying in wait. Guns with scopes, semi autos are all being looked at right now. Its only one vote and all our semi automatics shotguns can be delared as restricted. Same for our scoped guns. Now before everyone runs off and says thats just Fred crying the sky is falling. Go ask a AR 15 owner what happened.

I have fought this battle from the git go and its been amazing how readily people have accepted this.

No matter how we vote we should be raising the issues with candidates on every occasion we get.

[Fred Woodman]

Names and contacts, the bad guys

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1. The eight Liberals and six NDP MPs who changed their vote to kill Bill C-391:

The mailing address for all MPs: House of Commons Ottawa, ON K1A 0A6 (There is no postage required to mail an MP in the House of Commons.)
Anthony Rota
Liberal
Nipissing—Timiskaming
Ontario
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Jean-Claude D'Amours

Liberal
Madawaska—Restigouche
New Brunswick
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]

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Keith Martin

Liberal
Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca

British Columbia
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]
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Larry Bagnell

Liberal
Yukon
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]
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Scott Andrews
Liberal
Avalon
Newfoundland and Labrador
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]

Fax: [phone]
Scott Simms
Liberal
Bonavista—Gander—Grand Falls—Windsor
Newfoundland and Labrador
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]

Fax: [phone]
Todd Russell 

Liberal
Newfoundland and Labrador
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]

Fax: [phone]
Wayne Easter
Liberal
Malpeque

Prince Edward Island
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]
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Carol Hughes

NDP
Algoma—Manitoulin—
Kapuskasing
Ontario
[e-mail]

Ph: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Charlie Angus
NDP
Timmins-James Bay
Ontario
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Claude Gravelle
NDP
Nickel Belt
Ontario
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Glenn Thibeault
NDP
Sudbury
Ontario
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Malcolm Allen
NDP
Welland
Ontario
[e-mail]
Ph: [phone]
Fax: [phone]
Peter Stoffer
NDP
Sackville—Eastern Shore
Nova Scotia
[e-mail]
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[albert linegar]

                                          STEPHEN HARPER MAKES GOOD ON PROMISE .

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    Provided by The Canadian Press
Posted on Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 1:14 pm by Canadian Press

The Conservative government has introduced legislation to scrap the registration of rifles and shotguns.

  Police, health and victims groups are among those immediately voicing their opposition the bill, which marks the beginning of the end of the controversial long-gun registry.

A private member’s bill to kill it was narrowly defeated in the last Parliament, but the Tories promised in the federal election this year to try again.

Now with a majority Conservative government, the bill seems certain to pass.


The Tories argue the registration of long guns is wasteful and unnecessary, although they support the licensing of gun owners and the registration of prohibited and restricted weapons.

“The Harper government has stood on the side of law-abiding firearms owners, farmers, hunters, and rural Canadians in every region of this country,” says Manitoba MP Candice Hoeppner, who joined Conservative colleagues in announcing the new bill at a farm outside of Ottawa.

Hoeppner says the registry has been a waste of taxpayers’ dollars, close to $2 billion.

She said the money could have been spent to crack down on criminals.

An internal RCMP evaluation found the federal gun registry was a useful tool for police.

The Coalition for Gun Control says it is urging Canadians to tell their MPs to oppose the legislation.

The group accuses the government of proposing “an archaic rollback of the clock.”

The umbrella group for Quebec police forces says rifles and shotguns are most used to kill police officers in domestic violence cases, suicides and incidents involving youth.

It called on the government to transfer registry data to the provinces, something Public Safety Minister Vic Toews has ruled out.

Dr. Alan Drummond, of the Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians and an assistant coroner in Perth, Ont., calls the new bill an “unwelcome social experiment” by the Conservative government.

“No law can prevent all tragedies. But a gun-control law, which includes registration and is rigorously implemented, makes it harder — not easier — for dangerous people to get firearms,” says activist Priscilla de Villiers, whose daughter, Nina, was abducted and killed with a legally owned rifle.

But Hoeppner says that the Tories have “carefully examined all of the sides and the evidence.”

She adds: “I can confidently stand in front of you today and I can say that the long-gun registry has been completely ineffective and it has been completely wasteful.”

Hoeppner says there is a misconception that keeping the long-gun registry will prevent “horrible things” from happening. And she says there have been instances where terrible crimes have been committed by long guns.

“The truth is that all of these things did happen despite the long-gun registry being in place.”

NDP justice critic Jack Harris said destroying the registry, and the records compiled in it, is inconsistent with the Harper government’s oft-declared campaign against crime.

He calls it hypocrisy at the highest level.

“We’ve got a government who’s supposedly interested in helping victims and having safe communities and they’re doing something that the chiefs of police are saying is going to cost lives.”

He scoffed at the Tories’ claim the move will save $4 million a year.

“This is not about austerity. In fact, they’re talking about destroying records that probably cost many millions of dollars to collect.”

The new bill will repeal the requirement to register long guns, and calls for the destruction of all records pertaining to the registration of long guns currently contained in the Canadian Firearms Registry. It will also maintain controls over restricted and prohibited firearms.

              The Canadian Press

[Fred Woodman]

Death of the Gun Registry about to be voted away in Parliament. A great day for law abiding Gun Owners. Long over due.

Thank you Stephen Harper.

[albert linegar]

 Right on Fred. I wounder how the  NDP candidates in Western Canada who vote against bill C 19  will fare in the next  Federal Election.

            Albert.

[albert linegar]

 This is merely the first step on a long road to some form of normality , but it is a step in the right direction." Hopefully ".

                         Albert .