Transportation of firearms

[jesse james]

Is anyone here familiar with firearm transportation and the law.

A gentleman is hunting in his moose mangement area (MMA) , he has his rifle out on the seat no bullets in it ,traveling down the highway a RCMP Ofiicer pulls him in and charges him for transporting a rifle that is not cased or locked ,

 

The Rcmp officer is considered a hero becase he took a firearm off the streets  

 

It later goes to Court and is thrown out, the law is below

 

Transporting Firearms Safely

Non-restricted firearms

Unload your firearms
Muzzleloaders can be kept loaded when being transported between hunting sites but the firing cap or flint must be removed.

 

 

The gentle had his gun returned to him The moose licence that he waited for 5 yrs never got filled and he will have to wait his turn to get another licence.The stress of court for the gentleman who had never been in trouble before with the law

 

All of this because  an RCMP officer never  knew the law

 

What is Power without Knowledge the answer is ABUSE

 

 

[albert linegar]

I have a lot of respect for the law especially the RCMP. however whenever I have a question about firearms I have difficulty getting the information.Recently I moved and had to get a permit to transport a prohibited weapon. I called the RCMP. detachment in Ferryland and was told by the officer that there were some permits there I only had to drive there and pick one up.I couldn't do it that day since it was to late, he told me I could do it the next morning .In the meantime I called NB and had to leave a message to have someone call me back. The next morning when I got to the RCMP. detachment there was nobody at the office.I called again, this time ST.JOHN'S and was informed that I had been a victim of bad information since the RCMP. don't do that anymore.He gave me the number of the CHIEF FIREARMS OFFICER and from there it was easy, the permit was emailed to me all I had to do was print it off and cut out the permit. The permit, by the way, came from :

Jeff Renalds

Firearms Officer

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Canadian Firearms Program

ST.JOHN'S

After all this was done my call to NB. was returned and I informed the young lady that I already had it done. when I mentioned my long guns she told me I didn't need a permit to transport non-restricted firearms, so with confidence that I had done it right I moved, guns and all,however it didn't occur to me at the time that I have a 30,06 Hi power riffle [ non-- restricted ] but since I didn't have a Big Game License and no permit it was not legal to transport it, lucky for me I didn't get stopped,so you see even when you do it right , according to those who should know you can still get in trouble . I feel sorry for the gentleman in question. The regulations are quite confusing. Albert

 

 

[kenneth Griffiths]

The sad thing of all of this is, Trying to do right with nobody's help. Two rights don't make a wrong, but in this case is dose.

[Fred Woodman]

Its just another example of where gun owners dont have the same rights as other Canadians.Don't vote Liberal or NDP in the next Federal Election. Thats a good way to START backing out of a lot of the stigma attached to being a gun owner.

[Cathy Stamp]

Sad to say buy most cops don't know the laws and don't have a freakin clue! Some gunlaws conflict with one another.  I was a field officer for the National Firearms Assoc. When hunting season opens your firearms are no longer considered in "storage" they are in use, when the hunting season is over that is when it has to be cased and locked!  Now I don't mean leave your guns out by any means.  Any firearms offence is a Federal charge not provincal you can loose your job end and up on welfare!

The CFC registered 11 guns in my name that I did not own, when I called to straightened up the mess they tried to tell me my X husband was my brother I could not convince them other wise!!!!!  I'm glad to say I taped the conversation, if you have any dealings with the CFC I suggest you tape your phone call. My mess has yet to be straightened out! 

I would suggest that this person contact the NFA they will want you to become a member but they are experts when it comes to the gun laws.  Cops are like Mechanics, Doctors etc some are good and some are not! 

ATT,s can be printed off the CFC website.

[Ray Hynes]

That was rather stupid on the part of the officer who seized the gun, and even more stupid on the part of his/her supervisor(s) who had to review and approve his/her actions , and then to suport the  charges. If they did not know , a simple phone call could have saved all concerned a lot of headache. After all no one expects the police to know everything about every law,,and if they are not sure...''look before you leap'' should apply. Of course this applies to the Crown Pros. who also had to concur with the whole process.  This one should go in the book of 'How to make yourself look stupid"   In the meantime however, if the gun was in plain view, and he was not in his hunting zone that could create a problem. The word PERSPECTIVE seems to come to mind, not to mention the COMMON SENSE and DISCREATION. 

 

Ray Hynes

RCMP retired